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Chaney said there is no set percentage proposed—only a system that he said would hopefully, in time, be “more fair” to cities. “64.2 percent of that new money above $825 million would still go to counties and 35.8 percent would go to cities, instead of (the current) 18 percent.

With prompting from Jones, Goodman said the state may ask the Corps of Engineers to help place some device in the area of the Levisa Fork to catch trash traveling into Fishtrap.

From a state agency standpoint, Goodmann said Kentucky has been successful not just at providing access to drinking water but also in reaching compliance with health standards.

“We wanted to make sure our protocols are appropriate.” That drew a response from committee Co-Chair Rep. The Kentucky League of Cities’ plan would set an $825 million cap on state road funds distributed through a state 1948 revenue-sharing formula called the “Fifths Formula”—the formula on which distribution of county road aid and rural secondary road funding is based.

Revenue-sharing dollars allocated to local governments above that cap under the proposal would be split between cities and unincorporated areas based on population and road miles, KLC officials told the Interim Joint Committee on Local Government. “We will include all that: the legislative agenda, the formula of Fifths, the way it works with the new proposal… Setting the cap at that level, he said, would hold counties “harmless,” or essentially allow them to continue receiving the funding they already enjoy.

“I think that cap, if there is some cap, needs to also have an inflationary increase as well—That’s the kind of thing I think the county judge-executives and KACo (Kentucky Association of Counties) would probably be interested in working with together,” Du Plessis said. Steve Riggs, D-Louisville, said the committee needs a simplistic, written definition of the Fifths Formula and other pertinent information from KLC, which KLC Deputy Executive Director J. Previous KLC road fund proposals had considered taking some of revenue sharing dollars away from the counties and reallocating it to cities, he reminded lawmakers.

Senate Majority Floor Leader Damon Thayer, R-Georgetown, asked what percentage of city road budgets KLC hopes to fund with state road dollars.

Division of Water Director Peter Goodmann told the Interim Joint Committee on Natural Resources and Environment yesterday that over 58,700 miles of the state’s drinking water lines are an average of 38 years old with 16 percent of those lines dating back 50 years or more.